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Talbot’s Post War Gran Turismo

November 27, 2018 By pete

From the Archives, December 26, 2012
We recently asked Gijsbert-Paul Berk if he had a favorite Talbot-Lago. Reaching into his huge bank of automotive experiences, he told us about driving the ultra-rare 2.5 liter 1955-56 Gran Turismo coupe on the banking at Montlhéry. Above is the author’s test car on the cover of the June 1956 issue of the Dutch magazine “Autovisie”. The photo was taken in front of the gate of the stately house called Oostermeer on the bank of the river Amstel near Amsterdam.

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Voiturettes Part 2: ERA to Talbot

December 15, 2015 By pete

ERA (English Racing Automobiles Limited, Bourne, U.K.)

Competitive years: 1934-1938 Horsepower Range: 180-225

While the MG, Alta, Riley and Austin 750 did remarkably well for Great Britain, the Raymond Mays/Peter Berthon ERA combined a production based supercharged Riley engine with a solid conventional chassis and to launch the best known British upright of all time. It was fast, mostly reliable, and attracted top notch drivers from the U.K. and one from Thailand. Prince B. Bira (for short) was a grandson of King Mongkut, the hero of the book and musical, “The King and I”.

Bira was encouraged and financed by his cousin, Prince Chula Chakrabongse, and the pair bought three ERAs, naming them Romulus, Remus and Hanuman under the White Mouse Stable.

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Voiturette Racing Cars: Part 1 Alfa through Delage

December 9, 2015 By pete

By Pete Vack

The voiturette (750cc, 1100 cc and 1500cc) races which took place between 1931 and 1940 were magic; technically interesting cars, around the house race venues, truly international with multi-make participation, a cast of characters from a Siamese Prince to Enzo Ferrari, Dick Seaman’s drives with the ERA, MG and Delage, and a devastating secret weapon unleashed by Mercedes Benz which defeated and demoralized the opposition. There was never a dull moment on or off the track. The venues were largely ‘around the houses’ circuits such as Pau and San Remo, the drivers were semi-professional or talented amateurs, and interestingly, there were no points or championships for manufacturers or drivers. In fact the formula was so good it became the official Grand Prix class in 1945, which lasted until 1952.

Below, we present the first six of twelve short stories about the primary voiturette racers of the 1930s, covering Alfa, Alta, Amilcar, Austin, Bugatti and Delage. Part 2 will cover ERA, Maserati, Mercedes Benz, MG, Salmson and Talbot.

Alfa Romeo (S.A. Alfa Romeo, Milan, Italy)

Competitive years: 1938-1940 Horsepower Range: 195-225

The voiturette class was eventually dominated by the 158 Alfetta in 1939 and 1940. However, it is not clear why Alfa did not choose to participate in the voiturette races of the early 1930s. Many of their customers, such as Count Gianni Lurani however, did so using the 6C 1750 reduced to 1500cc and equipped with a lightweight open-wheeled body. They won class victories at the Nurburgring in 1932 and a third place in the 1500cc in the 1933 Czech Grand Prix.

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Tagged With: 1500 cc formulaes, 1500 racing, Alfetta, Alta, Amilcar, Austin, Delage, ERA, mg, Racing, Salmson, Talbot, voiturettes

Silverstone Classic Race Meeting, 2015

July 28, 2015 By pete

Bizzarrini

Bizzarrini-not listed in program but sure made a great photo!.

Story and Photos by Jonathan Sharp

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Photos below include: Squire, Capri, Alfa 1300 Berlina, Maserati 300S, Maserati 250F,Bugatti T35, Pantera, Bizzarrini, Ligier, Ghibli Targa, Breadvan Ferrari, Lancia B20, Alfasud, Gipsy Dino, Alfa 8C 2300 Zagato, Alfa GTA, Talbot, Delahaye and more.

The numbers certainly make impressive reading; one hundred thousand spectators, over one thousand race cars, one hundred twenty car clubs displaying on the infield, fifteen hundred classic cars, all painted silver parading around the circuit on the Sunday, July 26. [Read more…] about Silverstone Classic Race Meeting, 2015

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Racing Voiturettes, 1931-1940

May 13, 2014 By pete


The voiturette (750cc, 1100 cc and 1500cc) races which took place between 1931 and 1940 were magic; technically interesting cars, around the house race venues, truly international with multi-make participation, a cast of characters from a Siamese Prince to Enzo Ferrari, Dick Seaman’s drives with the ERA, MG and Delage, and a devastating secret weapon unleashed by Mercedes Benz which defeated and demoralized the opposition. There was never a dull moment on or off the track. [Read more…] about Racing Voiturettes, 1931-1940

Tagged With: 1500 cc formulaes, 1500 racing, Alfetta, Alta, Amilcar, Austin, Delage, ERA, mg, Racing, Salmson, Talbot, voiturettes

Talbot-Lago Grand Sport Book Review

March 5, 2013 By pete

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Reveiw by Pete Vack

The “Talbot-Lago Grand Sport” arrived in a very heavy box, and like a Russian matryoshka doll, this was opened to find a luxurious 14.5 x 9.5 x 3.5 inch carrying case with handle, profusely illustrated with the cover material printed in full color. That in turn opened to reveal an even more luxurious 13 x 9 x 3 inch slipcover, which in turn harbored a slick, high quality two-volume set of the “Talbot-Lago Grand Sport”. Standard volumes are $350, with a limited number (600) of copies. Leather bound editions are $650 and only 100 copies.

We are sure most of our readers are aware of this line of Talbot-Lago cars, called Grand Sports. They can be seen occasionally at auctions, major concours, in select museums, and at important retro events. But such sightings are rare, fleeting, scattered throughout time and space, never allowing one to grasp the meaning, numbers or depth of the species. Most knowledgeable enthusiasts could probably not put forth a useful definition of the Talbot-Lago Grand Sport, much less recite how many were built, coachbuilders, where they are today and what they look like. Even co-author Peter Larsen, in the introduction, had to explain that the book was specifically about the Talbot-Lago Grand Sport, a rare model which did not include the more famous pre-war Figoni et Falaschi teardrop coupes based on the T150SS chassis.

MYSTERY CARS
The amount of information available about the Talbot-Lago Grand Sport (TLGS) is truly meager and as scattered as the appearance of the cars themselves. The Grand Sport model was not acknowledged in the original Georgano Encyclopedia, completely overlooked in William Stobb’s “Les Grandes Routieres”, mentioned only briefly in an excellent article on the automobiles of Tony Lago in “Automobile Quarterly’s” V23 No 4. An Internet search will reveal images and videos of several of the cars, some good information from our friends at Coachbuild.com and some auction company information, but all scattered and incomplete. Wiki is notably short on the Grand Sport. The bibliography in the “Grand Sport” book lists six books – most in French – that pertain directly to Talbot-Lago, and that’s probably pushing it. In short, there is not much out there.
That’s precisely what makes the Peter Larsen/ Ben Erickson “The Talbot-Lago Grand Sport” so interesting, valuable, entertaining, informative, necessary, compelling, and a thrill to read. For the first time, the Talbot-Lago Grand Sports have been tracked down, gathered, defined, explained, photographed and detailed, chassis by chassis. It is overwhelmingly new and fresh information. Many of the cars have not been seen in years; a few are in private collections unknown even to the authors; some – though very few – have just disappeared, and most are now and have been kept in Europe.

WHAT IS A GRAND SPORT
The Grand Sports were Tony Lagos’ supercars, the top of a very expensive line. Based on the pre-war Grand Prix chassis (with a 2.65 meter wheelbase and later 2.80 meter) they were given coachwork by Figoni, Saoutchik, Dubos, Franay, Graber. The T26 was virtually the same 4.5 liter Marchetti-designed hemi-head used in the Grand Prix Talbots of the era, minus the aluminum block, dry sump oil system and with different carburation, most using 3 Zenith carbs. This resulted in the most powerful French road car built at the time, with at least 190 horsepower on tap. The Wilson preselector gearbox was the same unit as used in the race cars as well. The chassis consisted of massive steel girders, independent front suspension via transverse leaf spring, and a live rear axle under the frame located by leaf springs. It was archaic but light. A huge 120 liter fuel tank meant long periods without stops but little space left for luggage. In a very real sense, a road-going GP car. Larsen figures that from 1947 to about 1950, between 29 and 35 Grand Sports were built on both 2.65 and 2.80 meter wheelbases.
With coachwork more art than automotive, the Grand Sport, as the book’s PR would have it, was “chic, ritzy, aristocratic with a superb pedigree that gave it instant admission to the elite gatherings at races and concours, no questions asked”. The coachwork that graced the Grand Sport chassis ranges from the bizarre and odd, to beautiful and advanced, from lithe racing barchettas to svelte coupes. Each is unique, most are stunning.

LAGO RECORD VS GRAND SPORT
Allow us to digress for the benefit of our very astute readers who may wonder about the difference between the Grand Sport and the more common Lago Record: In the post-war era, the Talbot-Lago line consisted of the 6 cylinder T26 Record and Grand Sport, and the 4 cylinder Talbot-Lago “Baby”. The normal T26 Record used the same engine as the Grand Sport but produced 170 hp, using only two Zeniths. The Record chassis was much longer at 3.12 meters; the weight was 1280 Kg. As a post-war design, the Record feature coil spring independent front suspension. However, Lago’s goal for the Grand Sport model was to use whatever resources at hand to quickly create a lightweight high-performance chassis at low cost, hence the use of the pre-war GP chassis. It was 47 cm shorter and 430 Kg lighter than the new Lago Record. That the GP chassis made use of a transverse-spring front suspension was perhaps a necessary compromise. While it was seemingly a retrograde step, it made sense and Lago figured he could market it as a “perfected road car chassis, which has much of the power, road holding and strength of my Grand Prix racing machines.”

A NECESSARY OPUS
In the realm of French and Italian cars, we can only compare this new work to Christian Huet’s book on Gordini (in French only) and Simon Moore’s Alfa Romeo 2.9 and 2.3 volumes. In many respects, though it covers fewer individual chassis, the TLGS does it better, making use of more outstanding color photography as well as historical black and white images, complemented by outstanding layout and presentation. Like Moore and Huet, Larsen and Erickson are relentless detectives, tracing each car as far as possible from its birth to the present day. In most cases, where and whenever possible, the authors consult with the current owners and provide photos of the cars as they appear at time of publication. This with a considerable amount of historic images in both color and black and white, leaving little left to wonder.

Like Moore, they are not professional writers per say and at times the text can annoy. But any such annoyances are readily tossed aside as the full impact of the material presented simply blows one away. Perhaps unfairly, but in light of the overall magnificence, we care less if a rare word (“bespoke”) is over-used, or if certain peculiarities are repeated (on six different occasions calling Coatalen to task for spending too much on racing). Written off is a mistake attributing Rocco Motta as the coachbuilder for the Renault/Marquis (read story). Tony Lago was perhaps a bit less than the authors admit. More information about the post-war Talbot line and less about the Pons plan would have been nice. This ain’t Shakespeare, but it is a breathtaking revelation of the most hidden, most outlandish, most artistic, and often the most beautiful cars on earth.

VOLUME 1
While Moore dealt with a very well-known subject matter, the team of Larsen/Erickson knew that they would have to set the scene for the actual serial number saga. Volume 1 includes a fairly in depth history of the S-T-D year but focuses on the story of Tony Lago, his triumphs and repeated problems trying to keep his firm alive and solvent while he upheld the honor of France on the race tracks and the Paris salons. The authors have done their research here, bringing in new facts about the life and death of Talbot, the heartbreaking bankruptcies, the mistakes and the competition, but alas, no one yet knows much about the private life of Tony Lago.
Technically, there is a chapter on the history and workings of the Wilson pre-selector gearbox, the chassis, and yet another about engines that would power the fabled Grand Sports. They are not in great depth, but enough to garner a good understanding of the components. The chapter on the Wilson gearbox was most welcome.
Much to our delight, Volume 1 also contains fairly substantial histories of the coachbuilders that clothed the Grand Sports. How much do you know about Dubos, Antem, Besset, Pennock, and Contamin? Altogether the authors found eighteen different coachbuilders and/or designers responsible for the Grand Sport bodies. Each one is given a chapter. Only Farina, Saoutchik, Graber and Motto were familiar to this reviewer in any depth.
Alas, nowhere in Volume 1 is there good photos of any of the 35 plus cars that are described in Volume 2! The authors wanted to save the subject shots for the second volume. At first this was rather annoying, as there were plenty of references to the Grand Sport series. Then I (egad, pardon my first person here!) decided to go with the flow. I carefully digested Volume 1’s 238 pages, while absolutely refusing to even open the cover of the larger, heavier 407 page Volume 2, which I knew consisted of all the chassis numbers. Something told me I’d be into something good.

THE TREASURES IN VOLUME 2
Admittedly, not jumping into Volume 2 takes some self-discipline, but it was worth it. For every night I would discover a new and interesting if not bizarre car which I had never before or rarely seen. Or seen only in grainy Road & Track photographs, or in photos take in the poor light of museums or obstructed by asses and elbows of the concours field. But here they all were in both color and historic images, almost large that life, with details and histories. Each chapter was to be saved and savored, each one a treasure, even to one who is admittedly pretty jaded in terms of automobilia by now.
This leads to a problem; one can be devastated when the last of the 648 pages are turned, the last car unveiled, the last morsel tasted.
This is a huge book, an important book, and a superb effort, well worth the money. The price of entry is mitigated by the high probability that it is an investment which will grow in value.
In the next few weeks, we’ll give you further insights and previews of a few of the Talbot-Lago Grand Sports. Yeah, you too, can wait!

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STD Celebrates One Hour at 100 MPH, 100 Years Ago

February 21, 2013 By pete

That's 103 miles done in ONE Hour at Brooklands. Ian Polson poses with the recreation of Percy Lanbert's Talbot.

Story and Color Photos by Jonathan Sharp

Saturday February 15, 1913 had dawned misty, not ideal conditions to attempt to set a record to drive a car for 100 miles in an hour. Not 100 miles per hour; that had already been done. But this record was to drive a car 100 miles in distance in one hour.

The scene of this attempt was the Brooklands motor racing circuit in Weybridge Surrey England. The creation of Mr. Hugh Locke King, a wealthy land owner, this huge banked speedway was opened in 1907 and was the ideal location for such record attempts. By 1908 the record already stood at 85 miles in the hour. In 1912 the record had been pushed to 97.59 miles in the hour. This was achieved by the French driver Victor Hemery driving his 15 liter Lorraine Dietrich.
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Driving the Talbot Lago 2.5 Gran Turismo

December 26, 2012 By pete

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To accompany our stories about the Grand Sport, we asked Gijsbert-Paul Berk if he had a favorite Talbot-Lago. Reaching into his huge bank of automotive experiences, he told us about driving the ultra-rare 2.5 liter 1955-56 Gran Turismo coupe on the banking at Montlhéry. Above, the author’s test car, a Talbot 2.5 liter GT coupé on the cover of the June 1956 issue of the Dutch magazine “Autovisie”. The photo was taken in front of the gate of the stately house called Oostermeer on the bank of the river Amstel near Amsterdam.

By Gijsbert-Paul Berk

I have never owned a Talbot-Lago and they were never on my shortlist. The main reason for this is that when they were new, they were far beyond my financial scope. When they were affordable, as second hand cars, the factory no longer existed, so service and spare parts were a problem. So, it is not that I dislike Anthony Lago’s Talbots; I have driven 4.5 liter sedans, owned by friends. In 1956 I even drove a 2.5 liter GT coupé on the Montlhéry circuit in France. But it was not in a race. [Read more…] about Driving the Talbot Lago 2.5 Gran Turismo

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Tony’s Talbots

March 28, 2012 By pete

Peter drives his first Talbot Lago, #110007, ex-Chiron. Courtesy Peter Giddings.

Hindsight is a good remedy for perceived mediocrity. Looking back on the 20-odd year run of the French Lago Talbot, it is easy to see that the cars of Anthony “Tony” Lago (born on this date in Venice in 1893)were not only were winners on the concours circuit, but significant winners on the Grand Prix tracks in the post war era. After five major Grand Prix wins, nine lesser ones and victory at Le Mans in 1950, Cyril Posthumus would write, “Lago, in his retirement years could look back on a remarkable chapter of accomplishment.”

On the day of his birth, we remember the cars of Tony Lago, thanks to VeloceToday reader and longtime vintage racer, Peter Giddings.

From the dramatic concours-winning Figoni et Falaschi coupes of late 1930s to the last-of-the-line Lago America coupes of 1956, Lago Talbots came on the scene with style and flair, making the most of a meager budget and limited facilities. In between the flashy sports cars were the real stars…the series of remarkable 4.5 liter Grand Prix cars that were campaigned primarily by privateers from 1939 to 1952.

Peter Giddings can claim to have been racing Lago Talbots for over thirty years. Although he recently parted with the ex-Etancelin car #110054 (which went to his good friend David Duthu), Giddings has an enormous amount of experience with the GP Lagos. He also owned and raced the ex Chiron/Whiteford French/Australian Grand Prix winning Lago Talbot #110007 for ten years. Like no one else, Giddings is the guy in the know.

The ex-Ron Smith Talbot-Darracq 150 which inspired Peter Giddings. Photo courtesy of David Venables.

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Gerelli’s 2010 Mille Miglia: The French

May 18, 2010 By Gerelli

Photos and captions by Alessandro Gerelli

Bugatti Type 35A of 1926


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Mille Miglia 2009 in French

June 4, 2009 By Gerelli

In the 1954 Mille Miglia, a 4CV Renault was driven by the team of Redele/Pons to victory in the Special Touring class, followed by two other Renaults.

All Photos by Alessandro Gerelli

A small selection of the French at the Mille Miglia this year. No matter how many times we cover the Mille Miglia, we are always amazed at the delightful variations on the theme of the automobile.
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French Dressing

January 21, 2009 By pete

french design
Photo by Brandy Elitch.

When Terry Cook was the Editor of HOT ROD in the early 1970s, he had always been more passionate about how cars look than how fast they can accelerate, brake or go around corners. To Cook, styling was everything. He became interested in the French and German coachbuilders who, during the 1930s and 1940s pushed the envelope with bold, fresh, risky styling. [Read more…] about French Dressing

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