By John R. Wright
JW: Tell us of Oscar and your involvement in the CanAm years.
Deren: I was Oscar’s chief mechanic for the team from 1969 to 1971, when he decided he could no longer afford the time and expense of the CanAm season. Because Oscar knew Teddy Mayer – they both lived in the same area – he bought a 1969 McLaren M6B, right off the floor at the London Race Car Show. It was Oscar’s first CanAm car after the Cooper.
JW: Oscar had some problems at his first race with the car at Cumberland.
Deren: Cumberland was an airport course. The car ran great until Oscar spun out. The lower suspension was bolted to an A frame and it tore loose. McLaren sent us a drawing of the A frame and told us they hadn’t got around to making it heavier. We put a 3/16” metal frame wrapped around that part of the car for better strength. For example, the steering arm’s three bolts were all loose but safety wired! Teddy said the car had been assembled in a hurry just for the show – now he tells us. Then one of the mechanics said “We sell you an assembled car and it’s up to you to make it a raceable car.’ With that car Oscar won several hillclimbs and SCCA class championships. He ran it in the CanAm beginning in 1969, but the car was severely damaged when my shop was destroyed in a natural gas explosion that September. The McLaren’s roll bar held up the collapsed building’s roof and giving me room to crawl out. I spent the next 10 weeks in hospital with severe burns. Oscar wanted to continue with McLaren and because of his connection with Teddy Mayer, he was able to buy one of the two McLaren M8 high-wing team cars available for the 1970 season. Lothar Motchensbacher bought the other one.
JW: That high wing eventually had to come off, you told me.
Deren: The wing came off because people were building copycat high wings were losing wings. They mounted the struts directly to the uprights – without the rubber mountings McLaren used -and they were breaking from vibration. The rules changed. Now, the wing had to be no higher than 41 inches and had to be mounted to the frame.
JW: However, you soon took the measure of the car, which you told me was relatively easy to work on.
Deren: That M8B, I could take it all apart in four hours so I could magnaflux anything on the car and do post-race maintenance. That was all because of the McLaren team’s massaging of the car’s components. It was made to come apart easily.
JW: Now back to Oscar.
Deren: Oscar wasn’t a bad driver, but he had to do everything like sort out the car during practice, stuff like that. We had no test program to prepare the car for any particular track. He go into the car driving it as it was. In an early practice session at Mid-Ohio, he was far off the pace and complained about the car to Bob Bondurant. Bob took the car out and almost immediately was 3 to 4 seconds faster. He then sat down with Oscar and asked him what he had been doing at each point on the course and told him what changes to make. By the end of the weekend, Oscar had picked up that 4 seconds. Afterwards, he said, “I never knew I had so many bad habits.” Oscar also hillclimbed in his cars. Hill climbing was more dangerous, strictly running against the clock. The roads were heavily crowned, with rocks and trees all around, and you were trying to go 11/10ths. He held the record at Giant’s Despair for many years with the M6B. He would not run the M8B there as he felt it had too much power to be safe there.

Stirling Moss and Mrs. Jack Deren discuss the pros and cons of Johnson’s Wax at the hight of the Can Am series.
JW: Tony Adamowicz also drove for you, didn’t he?
Deren: Early in the 1971 season, Oscar decided that the car deserved a driver who get the most out of it and so he chose Tony. “Tony A to Z.” Tony had a top -notch driving background. He was very alert to what a car was telling him. For example, at a race at Laguna Seca, he suddenly felt a slight vibration and instantly shut the engine off. We later found out that the crankshaft had broken. Tony had reacted so quickly that the bearings on either side of the crack weren’t damaged. We used to say that if a car could talk after Tony had finished a race in it, the car would be panting. That’s how hard he drove. Tony was one of the three founders of the PRDA – Polish Race Drivers of America. Of course, Oscar was the main guy, backed up by Tony and Brad Niemcek.
JW: Tell us some more about the M8.
Deren: It was a very different car from the M6B. Oscar said the M6B handled much like the Lotus 23. With the wide tires it was very easy to slide around. The M8B would stick tight and then suddenly break loose And race car wise it was the difference between night and day. It was so easy to take apart. For example, the rear axle U joints. You would usually have to use a press on them. McLaren honed them out so that you could press them out with your thumb. The rest of the car I could take apart in four hours. You see in racing, everything has to be done right now. If we were in a race, the SCCA only allowed two people over the pit wall. After a practice session, in the paddock, everything had to be done Right Now.
JW: You told me you got into the habit of having tool boxes filled with tools with for a specific task.
Deren: Yes, you would have a tool box filled with parts for the transmission, one for the front left suspension, etc.
JW: You worked on other cars as well, didn’t you? Some of them less reliable and more fragile than the McLaren.
Deren: Yes, I did. There was the Lotus 30 of Peter Regna and we installed a Ford 351 in place of the original 289. If you can imagine it, the seat belt mounts were installed in the fiberglass body work! We built a subframe for that seat mounting to make it safer for the driver. The 30s were a very flexible car. At Lime Rock when another driver got in his car and when he jumped up and down in the cockpit, the belly pan touched the ground!
JW: You told me that some drivers want to change everything on a car when you’ve already given them a car they should be able to drive easily. You came up against that idea with Derek Bell in the BMW M1 at Sebring.
Deren: I did. Kenper Miller was driving and Derek arrived. Sebring liked to get showcase drivers. Derek arrived, went out in practice a, came back and said, “Jack I need this and that” – 5 or 6 things. I replied “The spares package didn’t arrive from Munich yet. What you’re sitting in is what you’ve got.” He then sat in the car for some time clearly thinking how to compensate. Then he went out and went 7 seconds faster. He drove around the problem. Drive what you’ve got! And Karl Kainhofer told me that Mark Donohue had once told him, “I thought, do I want to be an engineer or a driver? I just drove the car to its limit.”
JW: Can you give us another example of how someone can be encouraged to go faster?
Deren: As I recall, with Penske Racing there were auditions for driving the second TransAm car on a Monday at Kent. Mark took the car out to set a base time, but then Roger took the same car out and set a lap time half the guys auditioning couldn’t beat!
JW: You also got to know the drivers and mechanics well, didn’t you, Jack?
Deren: I got to know many of them, but we were never what you would call “friends.” We all seemed reluctant to become too close to a driver because you might be going to his funeral the week after a race. Oscar felt the same way. Racing was more dangerous then than it is now. I did have a personal connection with Mark Donohue. My aunt was his babysitter and his kids as well.
JW: You stayed in racing after Oscar left the CanAm series, preparing cars for Kenper Miller’s BMW team
Deren: 1977 began my long association with BMW. That January Kenper Miller bought Peter Gregg’s 1975 BMW CSL. Peter, Brian Redman, and John Fitzpatrick had won the 1976 Daytona 24 Hours in that car. We ran the car – just as we got it – to FIA specs at six races that season. Our best finish was a 2nd place at the season-ending Daytona. That winter, I made a number of changes to stiffen the chassis, which IMSA rules allowed. After the first practice session for the 1978 Daytona 24 Hours, Kenper said, “This feels like a completely different car.” In 1978 we ran 11 IMSA races, setting 3 qualifying records and 6 fastest laps. In 1979, we ran three races, setting more lap records.
CSL#59 is currently owned by Kevin Ladd. We took it to Daytona for the 50th Anniversary celebration in 2012. There was a pre-race “demonstration” event for the previous 24-Hours winners that we called the “24 Minutes.” Brian Redman was to drive the car. We weren’t sure of the engine’s condition and didn’t want to risk damage, so Kevin asked him to ‘take it easy.’ HA! Green flag dropped – end of first lap – Brian and a GT40 were way up front. When Brian came back in his first comment was, ‘Jack this runs better than the factory car!’
After Kenper sold the CSL, he bought an M1 Procar -FIA specs. The next year, I prepared it to IMSA specs. David Cowart obtained Red Lobster sponsorship and in 1981, we won the GTO class championship. We ran 16 races and won 11, including 9 in a row. Drivers David Cowart and Kenper Miller were first and second in points – the first time that happened – and I was named Mechanic of the Year. After the M1, the team raced a pair of March cars – 82G and 83G. The 83 was the one painted like a lobster.
JW: You have wound down racing activities were concentrating on restorations. Can you tell us what you have worked on?
Deren: In 1992, BMW Motorsports celebrated its 20th anniversary at Moroso and Sebring. I prepared nine cars for that event. In 2003, at the Lime Rock Vintage Weekend, it was the 25th anniversary of the M1. We brought the “Red Lobster” BMW M1 and he BMW 82G for Kenper Miller. Brian Redman gave press rides in the M1. In the past, I’ve restored race cars like the 1982 March “Red Lobster” GTP car for Jim Leeward and an ‘85 March GTP for Ed Mueller. Right now, I have in the shop an M1 Procar, an ’86 Corvette hillclimber, a 1980 MGB, a ’54 Austin-Healey and a 1939 Jaguar SS 100. I’m, 88 years old now and have now stopped turning wrenches!
JW: Thanks Jack for all the stories and the history.




Thank you Jack for taking the time to tell some of your many stories and Pete for publishing them. We need to capture the stories of men like Jack, who worked in the trenches and perhaps had a different perspective of what was happening than the drivers and media reported at the time.